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''The first death fails one of the initial ground rules for the Film Death and Sleaze Index: all deaths must be final. If the deceased is seen later in the film reanimated as zombie, as this victim is, their death wasn't permanent and, thus, isn't indexable.'' | ''The first death fails one of the initial ground rules for the Film Death and Sleaze Index: all deaths must be final. If the deceased is seen later in the film reanimated as zombie, as this victim is, their death wasn't permanent and, thus, isn't indexable.'' | ||
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''This is a scene from the film within a film and again violates the "Deaths are final" ruling. Yes, even if a character plays a character who meets their demise in a film's film, you're still not really dead. We're aiming to index "real" deaths, not impermanent simulations.'' | ''This is a scene from the film within a film and again violates the "Deaths are final" ruling. Yes, even if a character plays a character who meets their demise in a film's film, you're still not really dead. We're aiming to index "real" deaths, not impermanent simulations.'' | ||
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''Unlike deaths, it's hard to "fake" sleaze. Even though we're still in the film within a film, a near-naked man with a bulge in his thong is valid. The fact that we're indexing male sleaze is telling: sleaze doesn't have to arouse the watcher, it merely needs perceivable intent. David DeCoteau films (THE BROTHERHOOD, 1313) do nothing for me, but they're clearly beefcaking and, thus, indexable.'' | ''Unlike deaths, it's hard to "fake" sleaze. Even though we're still in the film within a film, a near-naked man with a bulge in his thong is valid. The fact that we're indexing male sleaze is telling: sleaze doesn't have to arouse the watcher, it merely needs perceivable intent. David DeCoteau films (THE BROTHERHOOD, 1313) do nothing for me, but they're clearly beefcaking and, thus, indexable.'' | ||
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''"Unfulfilled" is generally used when a piece of sleaze doesn't "pay out". Sex with an ill-timed interruption or cut, or a shower or striptease without nudity are some common examples. Even though we're seeing two zombies getting frisky, they're still acting in the film within a film, so "sleaze by necrophilia" doesn't apply.'' | ''"Unfulfilled" is generally used when a piece of sleaze doesn't "pay out". Sex with an ill-timed interruption or cut, or a shower or striptease without nudity are some common examples. Even though we're seeing two zombies getting frisky, they're still acting in the film within a film, so "sleaze by necrophilia" doesn't apply.'' | ||
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''Victim is later seen reanimated as a zombie. Violates "Deaths must be final."'' | ''Victim is later seen reanimated as a zombie. Violates "Deaths must be final."'' | ||
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''"Insurance" details "after death" inflictions; here, the headless body is used as a shield against an axe thrown by another zombie.'' | ''"Insurance" details "after death" inflictions; here, the headless body is used as a shield against an axe thrown by another zombie.'' | ||
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Death by zombie, decapitation. | Death by zombie, decapitation. | ||
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''Victim is later seen reanimated as a zombie. Violates "Deaths must be final."'' | ''Victim is later seen reanimated as a zombie. Violates "Deaths must be final."'' | ||
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''I spent a healthy amount of time debating "hand" vs. "fist", even though this death is clearly a fist. I ultimately decided there should be parity between "hand through chest" (think a clawed impact with fingers curled on the other side) and that the likelihood of someone wanting to distinguish hand vs. fist was low. I also how like how "hand" removes the emotion inherent in "fist" - we are, after all, trying to be objective (just as we record sleaze that does nothing for the indexer).'' | ''I spent a healthy amount of time debating "hand" vs. "fist", even though this death is clearly a fist. I ultimately decided there should be parity between "hand through chest" (think a clawed impact with fingers curled on the other side) and that the likelihood of someone wanting to distinguish hand vs. fist was low. I also how like how "hand" removes the emotion inherent in "fist" - we are, after all, trying to be objective (just as we record sleaze that does nothing for the indexer).'' | ||
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''Victim is later seen reanimated as a zombie. Violates "Deaths must be final."'' | ''Victim is later seen reanimated as a zombie. Violates "Deaths must be final."'' | ||
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''Indeterminate massacre. Maybe. Fast-moving, "endless hordes" style scenes are always impossible to accurately judge, so we usually only index the most obvious of deaths. There are none here.'' | ''Indeterminate massacre. Maybe. Fast-moving, "endless hordes" style scenes are always impossible to accurately judge, so we usually only index the most obvious of deaths. There are none here.'' | ||
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Death by television, electrocution. | Death by television, electrocution. | ||
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Death by fire (x3). | Death by fire (x3). | ||
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Revision as of 13:38, 2 February 2012
Death and sleaze by index
Death by: 1 [~49:00]: zombie, decapitation, axe (insurance); 2 [~53:30]: zombie, decapitation; 3 [~1:03:00]: head trauma, hand through head; 4 [~1:19:00]: television, electrocution; 5, 6, 7 [~1:20:00]: fire; 8 [~1:22:00]: zombie, throat ripped out. Sleaze by: 1 [~05:50]: man, man thong; 2 [~06:00]: sex (unfulfilled).
Death and sleaze by notes
| Indexed | Time | Notes | Reference |
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Death by zombie. The first death fails one of the initial ground rules for the Film Death and Sleaze Index: all deaths must be final. If the deceased is seen later in the film reanimated as zombie, as this victim is, their death wasn't permanent and, thus, isn't indexable. |
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| ~04:30 |
Death by zombie, scalpel, throat cut. This is a scene from the film within a film and again violates the "Deaths are final" ruling. Yes, even if a character plays a character who meets their demise in a film's film, you're still not really dead. We're aiming to index "real" deaths, not impermanent simulations. |
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| ~05:50 |
Sleaze by man, man thong. Unlike deaths, it's hard to "fake" sleaze. Even though we're still in the film within a film, a near-naked man with a bulge in his thong is valid. The fact that we're indexing male sleaze is telling: sleaze doesn't have to arouse the watcher, it merely needs perceivable intent. David DeCoteau films (THE BROTHERHOOD, 1313) do nothing for me, but they're clearly beefcaking and, thus, indexable. |
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| ~06:00 |
Sleaze by sex (unfulfilled). "Unfulfilled" is generally used when a piece of sleaze doesn't "pay out". Sex with an ill-timed interruption or cut, or a shower or striptease without nudity are some common examples. Even though we're seeing two zombies getting frisky, they're still acting in the film within a film, so "sleaze by necrophilia" doesn't apply. |
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| ~45:00 |
Death by zombie. Victim is later seen reanimated as a zombie. Violates "Deaths must be final." |
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| ~49:00 |
Death by zombie, decapitation, axe (insurance). "Insurance" details "after death" inflictions; here, the headless body is used as a shield against an axe thrown by another zombie. |
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| ~53:30 |
Death by zombie, decapitation. |
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| ~59:00 |
Death by zombie (offscreen). Victim is later seen reanimated as a zombie. Violates "Deaths must be final." |
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| ~1:03:00 |
Death by head trauma, hand through head. I spent a healthy amount of time debating "hand" vs. "fist", even though this death is clearly a fist. I ultimately decided there should be parity between "hand through chest" (think a clawed impact with fingers curled on the other side) and that the likelihood of someone wanting to distinguish hand vs. fist was low. I also how like how "hand" removes the emotion inherent in "fist" - we are, after all, trying to be objective (just as we record sleaze that does nothing for the indexer). |
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| ~1:05:00 |
Death by zombie, hand through chest. Victim is later seen reanimated as a zombie. Violates "Deaths must be final." |
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| ~1:05:00 |
Indeterminate massacre. Maybe. Fast-moving, "endless hordes" style scenes are always impossible to accurately judge, so we usually only index the most obvious of deaths. There are none here. |
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| ~1:19:00 |
Death by television, electrocution. |
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| ~1:20:00 |
Death by fire (x3). |
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Death by zombie, throat ripped out. The victim is seen again, still dying, at 1:23:30. Detailing death and sleaze is not only about what you see on screen, but also the intent that a non-existent budget or an "all in your mind!" mentality might not afford. When you see a zombie lunging for a character and then a quick cut, you can assume it was "death by zombie (offscreen)". Similarly, if there's a giant piece of your neck missing and you're admonishing your friends to leave you behind, you believe, as we must, that you're going to die. |
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- Films of 2000
- All films
- English-language films
- Body count: 8
- Sleaze count: 2
- Death by zombie
- Death by decapitation
- Death by axe (insurance)
- Death by head trauma
- Death by hand through head
- Death by television
- Death by electrocution
- Death by fire
- Death by throat ripped out
- Sleaze by man
- Sleaze by man thong
- Sleaze by sex (unfulfilled)
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