Ghyll talk:Bysted Timperton

Out-Of-Game Discussion

My research shows Bobby wemt into seclusion a few years ago after an ill-fated expedition to the ruins of Alezan, he hasn't been seen by anyone other than Easy Lizzard since- although he does maintain an active correspondence. It is possible this exchange was not made face to face, but through some other medium. It is also possible Bysted was actually speaking to a body double hired for the purpose of the interview, but I never found any proof such doubles are employed by Mr Shwarmph. --Bast ResNovae 08:31, 13 Sep 2004

Please sign your entries. Who said the above? (Presumably, Bast ResNovae, and thus, I'm adding that signature). Eiither way, yep, they have a point. Your entry will need to be revised somehow. --Morbus Iff 08:34, 13 Sep 2004 (EDT)

Sorry- when I try to sign entries, all I get is a squiggle- how do I change this? I have to copy and paste in other people's stamps, then make changes manually right now. --Bast ResNovae 08:38, 13 Sep 2004 (EDT)

The squiggle is actually magick... when you "Show preview", you'll see how it gets expanded to the right information automatically. However, this'll only work properly if you're actually signed in. Without being signed in, you'll just show your IP address. --Morbus Iff 08:50, 13 Sep 2004 (EDT)

Actually, Robbi was going to be yelled at by sbp about this article today, and was going to fix anything wrong with it. This is First Draft, not Final Article. --Melik Fizzou 08:57, 13 Sep 2004 (EDT)

The "yelling" took place on Swhack. The summary is that it would be nice if there could be more substance for what it rather a pivotal entry. If you're going to dib entries that have a central role in the current Ghyll milieu, you're taking on quite an added responsibility; I have a feeling that Robbi didn't realise that at the time. Nontheless, his effort is appreciated. --Sean B. Palmer 22:44, 13 Sep 2004 (EDT)

Hey, speaking as a newbie, it takes a bit for a newbie to get the hang of things... I think you've got to post _something_ and get it wrong and get that feedback. It's just part of the learning curve. That's why we can edit, right, to ID then iron out where things need tweaking? --Bast ResNovae 23:42, 13 Sep 2004 (EDT)

Robbi's first turn caused an hour long discussion over the meaning of just one of its sentences, which we had to take some care in repairing, and which was quite different to the minor edits that all the other posts required. Note that we're still in the very early stages of the game, only the second turn, and that Robbi was there from the beginning so can hardly be considered a newbie: when his initial post was clearly going to cost us a lot of time in integrating properly with the rest of the world, we gave him quite a lot of feedback, and are just wary that this is going to be a continuing trend. For this particular entry, our fears have been assuaged since he's decided to transfer the authorship of the post over to Melik Fizzou.

I've known Robbi for about half a year now, through d8uv, and so socially this is quite a different situation to what would happen if this were some random player: Robbi owes rather a lot for the stress he's placed on everyone around him for the past months! --Sean B. Palmer 00:07, 14 Sep 2004 (EDT)

I wouldn't assuage them just yet, since I'll probably mess it all up in my own spectacular fashion. I'd rather not write this, because I know that others will write a lot better entry. However, I'm the only one here who hasn't written this turn. Oh well. I'd hate to have someone write twicely because of this. Furthermore, neither myself or Robbi really knew how crucial Bysted was to the Ghyll Lexicon. Oh well. --Melik Fizzou 00:27, 14 Sep 2004 (EDT)

Just as a suggestion for figuring out how crucial something is, in addition to checking "what links here" for a phantom, I frequently use the search box to find *any* mention of the phantom I'm about to write. They are frequently mentioned in places without being links. That way, I make sure I've read the most recent version of statments about my subject. Hope that helps. --Qwentyth Pyre 18:41, 14 Sep 2004 (EDT)

Actually, if you find canon pages that doesn't include a link, and should, by all means, add the link in there. However, we're trying to keep them out of Talk: pages, just so they don't bring a player "out" of the game whilst they're doing research for their new entries. I know of a few areas that I've still got to edit to follow that credo, but it'll get done eventually ;) --Morbus Iff 19:00, 14 Sep 2004 (EDT)

Possible Rule Change

Are entries in the Ghyll Index canon, or are all entries at the end of the turn mass-canonized? I ask because the latter is pretty stupid. --Melik Fizzou 01:29, 17 Sep 2004 (EDT)

I'm not entirely sure what you mean. It's a little of both, really - for the intent of timing inside the Ghyll world, all entries happen simultaneously, such that they're all mass-canonized "at once" by the Encyclopedants. But, from the standpoint of the players themselves, once an entry has been written, it should be taken as canon immediately - otherwise, anyone can come along, write an entry that does something drastic, and invalidate all the other entries on that turn (ie., "mass flood wipes out the Folktown Record three weeks ago", breaking any current turn entries that talked about the latest edition). It'd be suicide to ask all the other players to retroactively rewrite their entries. --Morbus Iff 07:27, 17 Sep 2004 (EDT)